Most people don't remember the sway the PS2's DVD playback had in Japan, do they? That functionality and a good supply made for a great launch in Japan.

"The sales of the PSX and the PS2 were very poor at first, and for quite a while. The PS2 especially suffered from a drought of software in its first year in Japan, and a continuous system shortage lasting a long time as well."

Completely and utterly WRONG. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

The PS2 sold almost a million in it's first DAY on sale in Japan, and at this point had sold slightly more then the Wii.

darc requiem - yeah, you're right. It's clear from the post I quoted above that many of these kids do not know any of the facts either, which is what I'm trying to fix. But people only believe what they want to believe until they're faced with it.

Who wants to bet, the only changes we will see in this line up for a LONG while, will be the PS3 and PS2 changing places.

combined DS sales(phat and lite) are goin to pass ps2 in japan.

and i think that if the DSlite maintains these incredible sales. it will pass the ps2 alone.

cthu : remeber that ps2 was released with no competition. sold poorly at first . then when the gcn /xbox appeared. it had quite a big advantage so 3rd parties started to make games for it.
in the case of the ps3 it lauched with the competition it havent had a year of advantage.
but i still think its early to count the ps3 out

Complaining about the PS3 has practically become an artform it seems. ;)

The sales of the PSX and the PS2 were very poor at first, and for quite a while. The PS2 especially suffered from a drought of software in its first year in Japan, and a continuous system shortage lasting a long time as well.

Both systems had much better performance overseas at launch as the overseas launches happened considerably later with a larger amount of games available.

I had a PS2 about a month after the system launched in Japan. The only thing I played on it for almost half a year was Tekken Tag Tournament.

Patience is key. :D

"I personally think the PS3 will be on the rise big time by 2009."

No console has ever come from behind like that ANYWHERE. It would require something historic to happen.

"Until more heavy hitters show up on the PS3 game list, sales will slag. It was the same with the PSX, PS2, and DS. I wouldn't count it out yet."

None of those consoles ever 'slagged' in sales anywhere near this bad...

i wouldt count it out too.
but if it sells less than 2,5 million in japanby the end of the year.
i count it out.
remeberi said IF . im not flaming

Until more heavy hitters show up on the PS3 game list, sales will slag. It was the same with the PSX, PS2, and DS. I wouldn't count it out yet.

I was only talking about Japan. It truly is game over for Sony in Japan.

That said, it will also happen worldwide, just delayed 1 year. That's what happened with the DS...

You read it here first: Sony going 3rd party in 2009.

Naw, it's not game over for Sony. I'm telling you guys, the PS3 will have a grand relaunch in a year and a half - 2 years from now. The price will be cut, there will already be a lot of good software out for it, and it will grow and take over from there.

The problem with this gen was that it was pushed too quick. MS jumped the gun with the 360...which was probably in their best interest...but they caused Sony to push out their system way quicker than they wanted to, making it more expensive than they wanted to at the same time.

Sony's in a tricky position, though. Because of the amount of time it's going to take the PS3 to start rolling, they're going to have to keep it on the market much longer than the normal cycle of a system. Which means that Nintendo will be in the position to drop another innovative new console 4-5 years from now that could be more powerful than the PS3 and steal Sony's wind once again.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

"Nintendo winning Japan doesn't guarantee that they will come in on top overall"

Lucky they're winning worldwide too then eh? At current sales rates, the Wii could surpass the 360's LTD in JUNE!!

And I thought this was about Japan anyway...

"it's still way to freaking early to be calling it "game over""

Not in Japan. You don't come back from 8:1.

"Even if the PS3 continues to tank and they come out 3rd overall you really think that it will be the end of Sony???"

In games, yes. Soon the PS3 will be dropping behind the DREAMCAST in sales (for how long it's been out). And Unlike Nintendo, Sony doesn't have the 1st party strength to survive by themselves.

"You're dreaming, wake up."

Today's denial will be tomorrow's pain for you.

If Nintendo can keep supply up, and sales stay like they are for both, the DS will surpass the PS2's lifetime total in 101 days, or sometime early August. Think about that for a second.

Also, with this push, the Wii is actually selling better then the DS for the same point in it's life. And if it sells 100k for another two weeks, it will be ahead of where the PS2 was at the same point in it's life.

It's freaking game over, there is absolutely no way Sony can come back, the generation, and possibly Sony, are over.

I've been waiting to see someone pounce on that Terp, you're the 2nd person to say something now. Makes me want to put in my application to help these guys out, but my writing skills are sub-par at best. And I procrastinate when it comes to writing. I've known about my final paper that is due in an hour and a half all semester and I just now did it. With an hour and a half left to spare. GOTTA LOVE COLLEGE!

Since this is the lead story, I should post this here.

IGN confirms, via Jump Magazine, the 3D remake of FF4 for DS.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/786/786625p1.html

palafox - I thought these sales were a little low for Golden Week....that doesn't explain the delay though.

Lite hit 10 million - pretty suave.

I love seeing a console break the quarter-million mark in a single week, especially when that big week happens to put the console above 10,000,000 lifetime sales. 16.6 million DSes in Japan. That's not too far away from the worldwide total of PSP sales.

Also, it's good to see the Wii break 100k. Both Nintendo consoles easily managed to outsell the rest of the list combined, and together, the Wii and DS make up 85% of the hardware sales for the week. That a big chunk of nintendo pie right there.

truthspeaker, the Wii is gonna have to start outselling the DS before it actually has a chance to catch up. So far as I've seen, for every bit that Wii sales spike, the DS Lite spikes even more.

HOLY CRAP!!! the wii is just selling more and more each week!!! at this rate it might be able to catch up to ds in about a year or 2.

As for ps3...well it Might not be over just yet but its getting there

jesusfreakdk: The PS3 barely managed to outsell the PS2, and is actually in worse shape regarding its competiton with the Wii. Last week, the Wii sold 7 times what the PS3 did. This week, it exceeds 8 times.
Nintendo's on a roll, and I'm extremely excited to see Revenant Wings doing well. The more SE games that are received well for Nintendo's consoles, the more we'll get.

GO DSL GO. Still going strong I see.